Dunning Street and Plains Road Roundabout Construction Project
Tentative Construction Schedule
Updated June 10, 2008

Activity Tentative Dates

Mobilzation and Signage 5/28/08-6/6/08

Survey and Stakeout 6/2/08-6/6/08

Clearing and Grubbing 6/4/08-6/13/08

Construction of Northside of
Foxwander West Roundabout 6/16/08-8/1/08

Construction of Northside of
Hermes Road Roundabout 6/16/08-8/1/08

Construction of Southside of
Hermes Road Roundabout 8/4/08-9/5/08

Construction of Southside of
Foxwander West Roundabout 8/4/08-9/5/08

Completion of Hermes Road
Roundabout (*) 9/5/08-9/22/08

Completion of Foxwander West
Roundabout 9/22/08-10/24/08

Final Restoration 10/27/08-11/7/08

Project Closeout 11/10/08-11/28/08

Great - dust flying until November. What a waste of money.

jp,

What up my man?

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First of all, DA, I'm not a "man", but could probably be your mother. Secondly, I know where my money is going as a taxpayer - most of it goes to useless spending, some of it goes to needed spending, and whatever is left goes to paying some high priced state worker's pension. Not necessarily in that order. Building all those roundabouts thruout the area is under useless spending. Do we really need 7 roundabouts within a mile or so? People just don't know how to yield to those in the circle and to out-of-towners they are confusing. Just the other day I had someone stop dead in the circle because she didn't know which way to go. Sometimes the circles work well, sometimes they don't. What I'm getting at is we don't need them on Dunning Street. A stop light or a 30 second traffic light would have been better.

jp,

I understand your frustrations. However, if AMD comes (IF)...do you realize how much traffic would be backed up with street lights? We are talking 1200 employees for AMD alone, plus related businesses to come along. We are talking A LOT of cars. They won't all be using the bypass road.

Actually, I do have an issue with the bypass road. I think it should have been an actual Exit off the northway. I can't wait to see what the Exit 11 area looks like during rush hour. Wait till the Round Lake residents have to deal with that.

Once again ...i ask ...how do you think property values will go up ?
Increased congestion and traffic, busy roads in back yards, big buildings behind houses .... Luther Forest housing just took a big hit ....it will just take time for you all to realize it

DA, I thought Dunning Street wasn't going to be used as a main entrance to AMD. It was my understanding Stonebreak Rd was going to be used along with the bypass extension directly into AMD. Also, I thought Exit 11A WAS going to be the Round Lake bypass off the Northway. Now I see it is coming off Exit 11? What's up with that? Boy have we been snowballed!! I feel sorry for the people in Round Lake coming off Exit 11. Unholy, I agree. The closer you are to a "main" road the less your property will be worth. Location, location, location.

The Round Lake Bypass Road has always been planned as it is being built. Exit 11A will happen before the third chip fab plant is built. Also, the AMD folks will not be using Dunning, since there won't be access from Hermes to the LFTC. However, the NYSERDA tech park does use Dunning, and there has been lots of growth there. Also, when HVCC starts holding classes there, expect even more traffic. I think the long term plan is to have the NYSERDA park accessed through the LFTC, so that would relieve traffic on Dunning.

Well that does make sense, Roy. Thanks for the info. At least we know 1200 people employed at AMD will probably not be using Dunning. You know when I see some of the communities that are now so close to a major highway that didn't exist when the houses were built, I just shutter to think that's what happening to Luther Forest. I guess that's progress and we have to accept it, but it doesn't mean we have to like it. I kind of like not being too close to road noise.

This neighborhood is literally being shoe-horned into a commercial \ industrial area.
Noise pollution, general pollution and congestion are just the start ......i know i'm just so positive and chipper

So, the next time I recommend that we take some collective action to express our displeasure with the build-up in our back yards, maybe you'll listen. This sucks and we just rolled over and played dead. Unless we make a unified statement of anger, our town fathers and those mothers will continue to forget that lots of people live in Luther Forest.

I hate change, Smoother traffic flow is totally a pain in the ***.

Why should we give the local municipalities the money to improve our town? The federal government could be using the money to kill people in other countries, or support Zionist Isreal killing people in other countries. And what about the children? Money spent on initiatives to help manage accelerated regional growth, could easily be spent on education. How else are we going to brainwash the next genration into being complacent about killing people in other countries? And eachother?

Stupid town leaders and their well advertised and long-term efforts to plan with associated actionable results. Damn them, damn those goddam bastards to hell.

(The Capital District Metro area has been creeping north since the end of world war II and none of you saw this comming?? Its like you stand in front of a slow-moving Chinese tank and are outraged when it finally runs you over.)

dude - when you move out of your parents basement...unplug the internet, put away the tissues ...and have your own place ...the biggest single investment of your money is your house .... when you perceive your investment is taking a hit - it makes you pissy

Oh, and when you're neighborhood, where you live and breathe and sleep and walk is turned into a commercial/indurstrial area and/or the thoroughfare to reach said area, it makes you pissy.

Oh, God, I just spelled the possesive "your" as "you're." Hard to look righteous when you kant spel.

I totally understand your frustrations, but job growth in our State is always a good thing. The people closest to it might not like it, but overall it is good for our region. Now, you'll all have to decide if you want to stay here or move a little farther away, to a more rural community. You guys have to keep in mind, if you live within a mile or 2 of the Northway, chances are it's going to be a busy.

To be honest, I think the State would have been better off putting the chip plant in Utica, where they need the jobs. But, Bruno wanted it in his region.

quote:

Originally posted by UNHOLY:
This neighborhood is literally being shoe-horned into a commercial \ industrial area.

The Luther Forest housing development WAS shoe-horned into a commercial/industrial area. Don't forget, it was built when the rocket fuel test site was still in operation. Don't tell me you think that having jobs in your backyard is worse for your property value than having rockets fired from your backyard.

I find it amusing that no one batted an eyelash about the NYSERDA tech park which is much closer to homes than the LFTC will be and has a direct impact on Dunning traffic. Based on the arguments presented here, Luther Forest residents should have been up in arms about NYSERDA but in full support of LFTC. In reality, though, most people I've talked to support both tech parks.

Most people I know support the tech park also. I think there is a small group of retired folks that are upset and vocal. But they have no say on this anymore. Sometimes when you are retired, you look for things to complain about during the day.

Retired???????? I wish I could retire. I just keep working to support myself and my 2 cats. I'd love to be able to enjoy the peace and quiet of the Forest as it is now. But even now when I return from work I'm confronted with the noise of the construction on Dunning and the hard to find entrance to Partridge Drum. When you own a home and see how much it has appreciated in value and along comes something that could impact the value, you darn well better get upset. DA, do you live in the Forest? Or are you tucked away in one of those upscale housing developments.

DA, are you trying to be offensive or does it just come naturally, like stupidity?