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SO I do quite a bit of running around Luther Forest and I'm always on the lookout for a new route.
Looking at Google Maps, it looks like a good 8-mile loop is down Hermes road, through the old test station site, to Cold Spring Road, up to the lake and back into Luther Forest.
I haven't been down Hermes road in a long time. My question is whether it is possible for someone on foot to make it from Hermes Road to Cold Spring Road. Or are there fences or construction down there blocking the way?
It looks like it's accessible on Google Earth, but I'd rather know for sure before I get a few miles into a run and figure out I can't go any further.
The road between Hermes and Cold Springs is more of an access for maintanance vehicles to service the power lines that run through there... you probably could but its pretty overgrown and would have to check for ticks when you were done.
Originally posted by hokieian: SO I do quite a bit of running around Luther Forest and I'm always on the lookout for a new route.
Looking at Google Maps, it looks like a good 8-mile loop is down Hermes road, through the old test station site, to Cold Spring Road, up to the lake and back into Luther Forest.
I haven't been down Hermes road in a long time. My question is whether it is possible for someone on foot to make it from Hermes Road to Cold Spring Road. Or are there fences or construction down there blocking the way?
It looks like it's accessible on Google Earth, but I'd rather know for sure before I get a few miles into a run and figure out I can't go any further.
Construction is going to be ongoing in there for the next several years. Eventually you should be able to do what you propose.
What is the delay with Ellsworth Commons and St Ledger's Woods, and why does the town continue to due business with this builder if he cannot complete his projects?
DA, we don't live under communism just yet, so when the owner of land goes to the town with a development plan and they meet all of the regulations, the town must accept it.
On the other hand, there should be a bond that they put up to return the property to a more acceptable state. At what point do they forfeit that bond? How long must people live with a pile of dirt and a partially excavated field in their backyards before we level it back out and replant trees?
Originally posted by Roy: DA, we don't live under communism just yet, so when the owner of land goes to the town with a development plan and they meet all of the regulations, the town must accept it.
On the other hand, there should be a bond that they put up to return the property to a more acceptable state. At what point do they forfeit that bond? How long must people live with a pile of dirt and a partially excavated field in their backyards before we level it back out and replant trees?
Hi Roy,
Yes, I understand the process, but the town needs to approve plans like Ellsworth based on the fact the owner has the money to properly develop the site. In this case, obviously there are money problems. You are correct, there should be a bond in place or some type of financial arrangement like that. Now we have an eyesore, in the heart of "Downtown".
On a side note, anyone driving up Plains Road from the Lake, as they pass Cramer Road, you'll notice a bizarre sign which says "Road Closed .8 miles ahead, local traffic only". Shouldn't this sign appear BEFORE Cramer road, to allow people the detour..and the road IS NOT closed. Why is this sign here????
On a side note, anyone driving up Plains Road from the Lake, as they pass Cramer Road, you'll notice a bizarre sign which says "Road Closed .8 miles ahead, local traffic only". Shouldn't this sign appear BEFORE Cramer road, to allow people the detour..and the road IS NOT closed. Why is this sign here????
Probably becasue Cramer road isnt the detour. Easier to drive through Wineberry and Partridge Drum to avoid roundabout construction.
What is the delay with Ellsworth Commons and St Ledger's Woods, and why does the town continue to due business with this builder if he cannot complete his projects?
Thank you.
Basically, Roy has it correct. The town approves projects with the understanding that the developer would not be spending time and money on a project that he/she does not have the means to complete. We don't look into their finances. But the planning process itself isn't inexpensive. Every once in a while a project doesn't materialize on schedule for any number of reasons, some times these reasons are economic.
What a mess then. All those complaints from the residents about the trees being taken down, and now the builder doesn't have the finances to continue the project. It's not the towns fault, but I feel real bad for the residents.
At what about the other office building on Rt 9 north of the race track? They got the first one finished, but it looks like they've given up on the second one.
I agree that it would be preferable to see things happen quickly and neatly. There are some projects that just don't happen that way. The project north of the raceway was approved several years before the first building went up. If the visible effects of the current economic uncertainties are a few slowed down projects, I still think we are getting off much more easily than areas with numerous empty storefronts. If a developer becomes concerned that a project won't reach final completion, I imagine it's easier for the developer to sell it off before it's half built.
I also think that our AMD approval last night just might add momentum to some projects. But let me be clear, that's not why I voted for it.
JP, here is the construction schedule, which looks like it has been updated since the National Grid fiasco, although the release date still says June 11.
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The Project had been delayed due to coordination of utility relocations. Those coordination issues have been resolved and the utility companies will be commencing the relocations on August 18th. To complete the project in this construction season, the project schedule has been revised so that the Roundabout at Foxwander West will be constructed first. In order to construct this Roundabout, maintain traffic flow and provide a safe construction site, the Foxwander West entrance will be closed beginning August 18th until approximately October 10th , the estimated completion date of the construction of that roundabout. Residents of Foxwander West will be directed to use the Foxwander East entrance and a flagger will direct traffic from the Foxwander East entrance during the morning rush hours. Truck traffic will also be detoured during construction.
It was announced last night that National Grid is now ahead of the revised schedule in relocating the utility poles. It does look like this will still be a major pain for awhile.
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